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mdbw
01-05-2009, 08:30 PM
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2009/01/an-uneasy-fee-1.html

I have confirmed that former Kansas City president and general manager Carl Peterson was at the Dolphins game Sunday. The fact, first reported by profootballtalk.com, makes me wonder what is really going to happen with these Dolphins in the coming days.

Peterson, I am told, was not only cozying up to incoming owner Stephen Ross during the playoff game against Baltimore, he was on the Miami sideline with Ross prior to the game. And get this: He was wearing a Dolphins pin on his lapel.

And he was overheard talking about the Dolphins as, "We." and "We're." So it sounds like Peterson believes he's going to soon be part of the Dolphins organization in some capacity. Ross and Peterson go back 25 years. Peterson was the general manager of the USFL's Philadelphia Stars and Ross was the team's owner.

All this leads me to wonder, how can Ross bring in Peterson and keep Bill Parcells? It would have to happen only if Peterson comes in exclusively on the business side.

I went to the KC game in week 15 and everyone there was absolutely overjoyed that he had been fired after 20 years. The Chiefs could never make it to the next level and lately he had driven them into oblivion (obviously).

The only positive I can take from this is the fact that Peterson apparently did bring the Chiefs back to being one of the NFL's premier franchises from a business and popularity standpoint. When they don't suck and it's not 0 degrees that place is one of the best venues in sports. Since their Super Bowls in the 60's, Chiefs fans sort of drifted into a state of not caring and a loser mentality.

Until yesterday, Dolphins Stadium has felt the same way. This team should have that kind of crowd every week and there should be a waiting list for season ticket holders.

My hope is that if CEO Joe Bailey is leaving, that Peterson will be his replacement and will have nothing to do with the football side of things.

Your thoughts?
fishface
01-05-2009, 11:30 PM
It isn't so
mdbw
01-06-2009, 04:38 PM
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2009/01/05/0105dolphins.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=46

Now the Palm Beach Post has broken this story. I get the feeling Parcells ain't gonna be back more and more, no matter what Wayne says...
fishface
01-06-2009, 10:20 PM
Well, I said it isn't so because you asked me to, but the more I read about this story the stinkier it gets. The Sun Sentinel had this to say:

"Sometimes it takes a while to understand sports. Let's hope this isn't the case with Ross, if he still becomes the Dolphins owner this offseason. Parcells collects the remaining $9 million on his contract if the team is sold this offseason.

Ross could then re-sign him. But Parcells would have to accept. Ross better think how it would look in his first step as an owner to lose the man responsible for turning everything around. Then again, you'd think Ross would have been smart enough to tell Parcells months ago, when his ownership deal went through, that they were in this together.

Instead, Ross mugs with a man who ran Kansas City into the cellar for a decade.

Let's be clear on this: If Ross loses Parcells for no reason beyond thick thinking, the would-be owner's honeymoon is over before it started."
mdbw
01-07-2009, 12:27 AM
If you take a look at the table below you will see that only the lowly Lions had a lower percentage of fans fill their stadium this season. We are not at the bottom in average attendance simply because our stadium is a lot bigger than most other NFL stadiums.

Winning certainly will help this, but as I said, there needs to be a season ticket waiting list for this team. Why should the Pats, Jets, and Bills have one and have fans that are considered "better"? A good business plan can fix this, and I imagine this is exactly what Peterson will be brought in to do.

You may notice, Peterson's old team, the Chiefs, despite going 2-14 this season, still filled 96.2% of their stadium's capacity over 8 games. And that is with a 3.5% decline from last season. That means last year when they were 4-12, they filled 99.7% of their stadium over 8 games.

They filled 96.2% of their seats this year even with that Dolphins games when only about half the stadium was full. And yes, these figures are tickets scanned, not tickets sold.

We need someone who will fill that stadium and give us a legitimate home field advantage like we had on Sunday even though we lost. The Dolphins have not had one since the early 90s when Marino was in his prime.

<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" width="580" align="center" border="0"><tr><td colspan="8"><div align="center"><strong>NFL FINAL REGULAR SEASON ATTENDANCE </strong></div></td></tr>

<tr><td><div align="left"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>HOME TEAM</strong></span></div></td><td><div align="center"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>GMS</strong></span></div></td><td><div align="center"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>TOTAL</strong></span></div></td><td><div align="center"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>AVG.</strong></span></div></td><td><div align="center"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>% CAP.</strong></span></div></td><td><div align="center"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>PREV.</strong></span></div></td><td><div align="center"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>% +/-</strong></span></div></td><td><div align="center"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>GMS ('07)</strong></span></div></td></tr>

<tr><td><div align="left">Redskins</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">708,835</div></td>

<td><div align="center">88,604</div></td>

<td><div align="center">96.6%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">88,090</div></td>

<td><div align="center">0.6%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td><div align="left">Giants</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">632,554</div></td>

<td><div align="center">79,069</div></td>

<td><div align="center">98.5%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">78,731</div></td>

<td><div align="center">0.4%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td>Jets</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">627,858</div></td>

<td><div align="center">78,482</div></td>

<td><div align="center">97.8%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">77,107</div></td>

<td><div align="center">1.8%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td>Broncos</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">604,074</div></td>

<td><div align="center">75,509</div></td>

<td><div align="center">99.2%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">76,612</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-1.4%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td>Chiefs</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">592,622</div></td>

<td><div align="center">74,078</div></td>

<td><div align="center">96.2%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">76,777</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-3.5%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td>Panthers</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">585,684</div></td>

<td><div align="center">73,211</div></td>

<td><div align="center">99.2%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">73,403</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-0.3%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td>Browns</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">582,230</div></td>

<td><div align="center">72,779</div></td>

<td><div align="center">99.4%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">73,001</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-0.3%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td>Saints*</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">573,876</div></td>

<td><div align="center">71,735</div></td>

<td><div align="center">102.7%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">70,005</div></td>

<td><div align="center">2.5%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td>Ravens</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">570,152</div></td>

<td><div align="center">71,269</div></td>

<td><div align="center">100.4%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">71,153</div></td>

<td><div align="center">0.2%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td>Packers</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">565,460</div></td>

<td><div align="center">70,683</div></td>

<td><div align="center">96.9%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">70,805</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-0.2%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td>Texans</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">563,364</div></td>

<td><div align="center">70,421</div></td>

<td><div align="center">99.1%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">70,520</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-0.1%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td>Eagles</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">553,152</div></td>

<td><div align="center">69,144</div></td>

<td><div align="center">100.0%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">68,170</div></td>

<td><div align="center">1.4%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td>Titans</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">553,144</div></td>

<td><div align="center">69,143</div></td>

<td><div align="center">100.0%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">69,143</div></td>

<td><div align="center">0.0%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td>Bills**</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">551,969</div></td>

<td><div align="center">68,996</div></td>

<td><div align="center">96.5%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">71,055</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-2.9%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td>Patriots</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">550,048</div></td>

<td><div align="center">68,756</div></td>

<td><div align="center">100.0%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">68,756</div></td>

<td><div align="center">0.0%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td>Chargers</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">545,107</div></td>

<td><div align="center">68,138</div></td>

<td><div align="center">97.1%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">65,502</div></td>

<td><div align="center">4.0%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td>Seahawks</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">543,965</div></td>

<td><div align="center">67,996</div></td>

<td><div align="center">101.5%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">68,194</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-0.3%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td>49ers</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">540,103</div></td>

<td><div align="center">67,513</div></td>

<td><div align="center">96.8%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">68,028</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-0.8%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td>Colts***</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">531,026</div></td>

<td><div align="center">66,378</div></td>

<td><div align="center">106.4%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">57,305</div></td>

<td><div align="center">15.8%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td>Dolphins</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">523,919</div></td>

<td><div align="center">65,490</div></td>

<td><div align="center">86.7%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">72,229</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-9.3%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td>Jaguars</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">521,338</div></td>

<td><div align="center">65,167</div></td>

<td><div align="center">97.0%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">65,301</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-0.2%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td>Bengals</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">516,663</div></td>

<td><div align="center">64,583</div></td>

<td><div align="center">98.6%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">65,790</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-1.8%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td>Buccaneers</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">516,088</div></td>

<td><div align="center">64,511</div></td>

<td><div align="center">98.3%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">65,316</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-1.2%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td>Cardinals</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">512,775</div></td>

<td><div align="center">64,097</div></td>

<td><div align="center">98.6%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">64,581</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-0.7%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td>Falcons</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">512,527</div></td>

<td><div align="center">64,066</div></td>

<td><div align="center">89.9%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">68,396</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-6.3%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td>Cowboys</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">506,944</div></td>

<td><div align="center">63,368</div></td>

<td><div align="center">96.6%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">63,535</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-0.3%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td>Vikings</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">506,136</div></td>

<td><div align="center">63,267</div></td>

<td><div align="center">98.7%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">63,256</div></td>

<td><div align="center">0.0%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td>Steelers</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">503,125</div></td>

<td><div align="center">62,891</div></td>

<td><div align="center">96.7%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">62,084</div></td>

<td><div align="center">1.3%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td>Bears</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">496,276</div></td>

<td><div align="center">62,035</div></td>

<td><div align="center">100.9%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">62,158</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-0.2%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td>Rams</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">479,843</div></td>

<td><div align="center">59,980</div></td>

<td><div align="center">90.9%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">63,044</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-4.9%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td>Raiders</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">462,800</div></td>

<td><div align="center">57,850</div></td>

<td><div align="center">91.6%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">59,110</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-2.1%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr bgcolor="#e0e0e0"><td>Lions</td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td>

<td><div align="center">435,979</div></td>

<td><div align="center">54,497</div></td>

<td><div align="center">84.5%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">61,305</div></td>

<td><div align="center">-11.1%</div></td>

<td><div align="center">8</div></td></tr>

<tr><td style="BORDER-TOP: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid"><strong>NFL Totals</strong></td>

<td style="BORDER-TOP: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid"><div align="center"><strong>256</strong></div></td>

<td style="BORDER-TOP: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid"><div align="center"><strong>17,469,636</strong></div></td>

<td style="BORDER-TOP: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid"><div align="center"><strong>68,241 </strong></div></td>

<td style="BORDER-TOP: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid"><div align="center"><strong>97.3%</strong></div></td>

<td style="BORDER-TOP: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid"><div align="center"><strong>68,702 </strong></div></td>

<td style="BORDER-TOP: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid"><div align="center"><strong>-0.7%</strong></div></td>

<td style="BORDER-TOP: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid"><div align="center"><strong>256</strong></div></td></tr></table>
fishface
01-08-2009, 10:08 PM
It isn't so.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/miamidolphins/entries/2009/01/07/peterson_on_joining_dolphins_i_1.html?cxntfid=blog s_inside_the_dolphins
marinomisser
01-08-2009, 11:40 PM
so much wondering...the anticipation...what will happen...
marinomisser
01-08-2009, 11:40 PM
p.s. good research and commentary guys.